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My remission from ME,POTS&CCI's avatar

I belive my mom has lipedema. Would love to find some things to help her! I am curently on peptides btw. Bcp and TB500. Trying it for neck damage and for ME. Are you also Norwegian ?😀 First one I have seen here so far.

CarinaW's avatar

Yes, I’m from Oslo! 🤗 My mom is also here on Substack. She doesn’t have lipedema, but she has me. I’ll tell her about your Substack.

My remission from ME,POTS&CCI's avatar

That its interesting, cause i do think there is genetic links between me and my moms health conditions! And I think it could be tissue related. Yes please share, and if she have any questions just ask 😀❤️

Sharon Eiler's avatar

Also—consider FOX04-DRI please.

Pre-Note: I have been taking Tirzepatide at a conservative dose since about 5 months before the FOX04-DRI. While I had lost about 10 lbs before the FOX04 and about the same DURING FOX04 dosing, the Tirz alone did not at all affect the fibrosis.

I took FOX04-DRI and had a fairly immediate and dramatic decrease in apparent fibrosis after just one 2.5mg injection. The result was objectively, undeniably apparent 4 days later, and has been maintained independent of other body factors.

I had forgotten I took the injection (bc I thought it was an underdose (long story) so expected nothing). But then, when running my hand firmly along my low-back-butt—as I sometimes do bc it’s a place where I feel Lipedema “ledges”—I spontaneously noticed an unprecedented decrease and softening in those ledges. I THEN had to think about why this change could possibly have happened. It took me a few moments to remember I’d taken the FOX04.

I don’t know how to properly emphasize: I am fairly scientifically-minded. It’s rare to really know, under normal-life circumstances—that a correlation you see is real, especially bc results are often subtle, etc. This was one of those rare circumstances where the result was not subtle or confounded in any way. I feel very confident in the validity of this observation, and I am NOT selling anything.

Since then, beginning a couple months later, I have taken a 3-“dose” course where each “dose” is 5mg injected (half in each low hip) on day 0 and 3, then wait a week before the next dose.

I would subjectively say there was some add’l softening over this course, but maybe 1/8th that produced by the first 2.5mg dose.

It may be that the FOX did most of what it could in that first dose, which makes some sense given its mechanism of action.

Curiously, however: Since beginning dosing, my legs and butt DO seem to actually be changing SHAPE relative to my body—becoming more proportionate, not just losing generalized weight. This has never happened in my personal history of (moderate) weight fluctuations. I do not observe the same shift in my arms, which are also (less) affected by Lipedema. It IS possible this is due only to generalized weight loss—perhaps I am not remembering my former body shape perfectly as it’s been about 10 years since I was last this weight. But I do think the FOX had an effect. My Hume scale seems to corroborate greater fat loss in my legs than in my arms or belly (another shift I’d not previously seen.)

In my arms, if anything, the fibrosis has become EASIER to find/feel, probably bc I’ve lost a little weight so there is less fat hiding them.

So I have opposite subjective experiences in two different areas of my body. Softening (and shape change?) in the limbs that received the FOX04 injections and no change in the limbs that didn’t.

Now, FOX04 theoretically works systemically as I understand it, but per my experience anyway it seems the effect is at least more pronounced closer to the injection spot. Just reporting my observations, that’s all I know.

So, next I’m going to try some dosing into my arms and see what happens.

I also suspect the FOX04 may have made the Tirz a little more effective, as the weight loss became a little more reliable with less attention. But I’m not sure.

I’d love to hear others’ observations if they’ve also tried FOX04.

Sharon Eiler's avatar

I’d love to hear your take on AOD-9604, and GHK-CU as it relates to Lipedema (including skin firmness needed after weight loss.

Also, my understanding is that TB-500 is a fragment of the more complete Thymosine-beta 4 (TB-4), which retains more powerful anti-fibrotic effects, useful to Lipedema. If this is the case, TB-500 should be de facto more helpful than TB-500, but the discussion above doesn’t make that clear, if it’s the case. Am I correct? Incorrect?

Greenbriars's avatar

What type of peas did you study? Sweet green peas, or field peas, or another kind?

I really appreciate your explanation of the popular peptides.